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March 01, 2007

Down and out in the spiritual limbo

I guess in the scheme of things, I was destined to find a place like this. It's what's known as a 'character' building, one that is old and unkempt but elegant. On my second night, there's a pulse beating below me, and my office chair tends to roll towards the centre of the living room, but overall, I'm happy. This is where I want to be; the heart and soul of what little night life Winnipeg has to offer. It's a strange adjustment - going from the suburbia to this, but as ever, I'm an adaptive personality. I just wish my chair would stop rolling downards.

For some reason, I lost the will to write over the last year. Maybe it was WoW. Maybe it was my infatuations. Whatever it was, the creative well has surged and I want to express myself again. It's an odd sensation - for so long lethargy has dominated me. I've been so busy with this, that and whatever that I felt there was no reason to pay attention to this blog. I felt guilty over the months, but not guilty enough to provide any kind of insight.

A large part of the problem is I find myself constantly in these pseudo relationships where I want to be more than just friends, but can't quite breach the boundary. It's depressing. Honestly, if I were you, I wouldn't want to read another blog where the author went all emo, but I can't help it - I truly feel that a huge part of me has gone missing because I haven't experienced 'true love'. At this rate, that's not going to happen but I persevere. Maybe I should stop falling in love with long time friends. Maybe I should find someone new, but I can't shake the idea of someone that I've known and love, or think I love. I guess that's where the confusions lies.

Enough of that bullshit.

If I had to name a hero of mine beside Hunter S. Thompson, I would name Richard Dawkins. Most of the time athiests are very concilatory - they allow religious folk to 'worship' as they want without any interuption. They allow for the idea of someone else believing in fairy tails so as not to upset the delicate balance that is personal salvation. My hero, Richard Dawkins, has had enough of this hand holding. Here's a guy who's basically laid it on the line, his perfect intolerance to religious tolerance, and without apology has defended every attack and debate. You cannot win a debate arguing for divine intervention. Logically, you're going to lose. I admire to such a great degree someone who has had enough with the bullshit that it makes me feel like I should say something.

Today, I had a wonderful debate with a co-worker who is a knowledgeble person but doesn't buy evolution. At the end of the day, he has a belief in some kind of higher power that it's hard to sway him. He presented to me a solid argument. He asked: If, a million years now, humanity as far progressed as it should be, an individual created a kind of advanced intellectual ant farm, would they not be some form of God to the lifeforms he created? This stumped me - it's as good an argument as any I've encountered. Think of it - if we become so far advanced that our powers of genetic manipulation allows us to create intelligence, or even a world that was previously unknown, would that make us God? Is that an argument for God?

I argued that was a kind of fallacy - an argument as whimsical as the one saying that there is a toaster orbitting between earth and mars, and please disproove it. But it's shaky. It doesn't nullify his argument. It only proposes that his scenario was too far advanced to know any kind of definitive answer. Is that an answer? I don't think it is, anymore than his argument was proof positive for that of a divine salvation, but it still got me thinking. I've never had an argument with a person who believed in the statistics, figures and logic of science (for the creation of our world) but still doubted the validity of evolution. It was a bit of a mindfuck.

Posted by ChefQuix at March 1, 2007 12:13 AM | TrackBack
Comments

oh boy oh boy.... you had already encouter withsuch ideas of evolution but youīr not paying attention. thatīs too bad!!! i mean is your human asses that are on the stake here but you just bliddly close your eyes!!!
"this is your last chance after this is no turning back... you take the blue pill, you wake up in bed and belive whatever you want to belive... you take the red pill and...."
remember?
what would you do?

if you belive this post is crazy... then you already made the choice!!!
not because the post isnīt but because you belive!!!!
what you belive is what blinds you hehehehe...

good luck kiddo!

Posted by: SETH at March 2, 2007 10:36 PM

I took the red pill a long time ago, but the rabbit hole, it just doesn't seem to end. There's nothing to hold on to, no ground to ground yourself. I fear that I'm teetering on the brink.

Posted by: ChefQuix at March 3, 2007 03:44 AM

The paraphrase of your friends argument confuses me. The argument, as I've read it:

If it were possible for man to create a conscious creature, and this creature thought of us as god, this proves that a god created us.

This analogy is subtly imbalanced. Notice the phrase "if it were possible" only appears in the first half of the inference. Let's rebalance to remove the cognitive bias:

If it were possible for man to create a conscious creature, and this creature thought of us as god, then it is possible a god created us.

And if we're dealing with the Abrahamic God here: <sarcasm>How strange... an omniscient god capable of doing anything man can do.</sarcasm>


It is also important to note the fallacy of using analogy as proof.

The trouble of analogy as proof is that analogies presuppose the outcome in what is being compared. Analogies are circular, as such they cannot advance an argument towards proof. Although they are amazing tools to illuminate through comparison, it isn't hard to think of analogies which, although helpful, are false.

For example:

* Bohr's model of the atom with the solar system as analogy.

* the internet is A SERIES OF TUBES!

Posted by: Wally Glutton at March 6, 2007 12:51 AM

Quote: ["I took the red pill a long time ago, but the rabbit hole, it just doesn't seem to end. There's nothing to hold on to, no ground to ground yourself. I fear that I'm teetering on the brink."]

Try to read this ebook easily findible free on your web, i know it wonīt be easy for you to read it, and harder to grasp it but hey!.!.!.!

"Bringers Of The Dawn" Barbara Marciniak

read it carefully, it has a lot of mumbo jumbo on it, but not all of it so be carefull, try to read it slow, a chapter a day maybe... do some research, dig deeper...

remeber if you belive you already made the choice...

Good Luck Kiddo!!!

Posted by: SETH at March 15, 2007 01:01 AM

I feel down that rabbit hole! But I landed on my ass in Wonder-land, and now I can't get back out!

Good to have you bcak Chef!

Posted by: Chuck at April 8, 2007 09:38 PM

Thanks for the kind comments!

Posted by: ChefQuix at April 18, 2008 10:55 AM
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